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00:12:43 ⓢ hlb moon_c 升級了！
00:13:59 ⓢ hlb `input[type="email"]` 需要補個 `box-sizing: border-box;`
00:14:12 ⓢ moon_c @clkao: 那個本來就是slack 的啦XD
00:14:15 ⓢ hlb input 才不會跑出去
00:14:24 ⓢ yhsiang hlb: ok thx!
00:15:16 ⓢ moon_c @hlb: moon_c 2.0版（？
00:15:19 gugod au: trs_lookup 用到的 "lookup/trs" 資料夾並沒有在 moedict-webkit 裡... 是否有特殊的 deploy 方式 ?
00:15:54 gugod au: 我用同樣的機制把 pinyin lookup 做完了，但看來似乎不該把 lookup table commit 進去
00:23:46 au gugod: trs 是 https://github.com/a-tsioh/TaigIM-web
00:23:48 kcwu au's url: [a-tsioh/TaigIM-web · GitHub]
00:24:10 au 有一套複雜（而且我還沒寫 Dockerfile）的安裝程序
00:24:21 au 看能不能另開 repo 然後 dockerize 一下？
00:24:37 au 約定一個 well known port，我再 docker run link deploy 起來。
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04:39:48 kcwu slackbot's url (1/3): [shulusama/inviteyoself-g0v · GitHub]
04:46:10 gugod slackbot: 你亂碼了
04:47:26 au 要 truncate 在 utf8 boundary (又是一個坑)
04:48:32 au -> zzz &
05:45:40 mix Hi all, this is Mix from Loomio. I'm looking for some advice
05:46:01 mix I just got an automated notification when this article came out : http://www.chinatimes.com/newspapers/20150111000024-260202
05:46:01 kcwu mix's url: [14～20日全國能源會前網路會議暖場 - 中時電子報]
05:47:14 mix I was wondering if any of the zh-TW translators could give me an accurate outline of whether the article is a good one we should share
05:55:31 mix clkao are you out there ?
05:56:22 mix ah, it's 6am in Taiwan, sorry :P
06:25:47 pm5 hi mix
06:26:15 pm5 the article is about the national energy conference that will be hold in Jan 26, 27
06:27:10 pm5 there will be a 1 wk (14-20) pre-conference discussion on the network using loomio as the platform
06:29:30 pm5 the bureau of energy will raise issues in the discussion; opinions will be collected as references for the formal conference
06:31:27 pm5 there has been a few national conferences in this mode since last yr. one specifically mentioned in the article is by the ministry of edu
06:33:59 pm5 exactly what can be achieved in these discussions is still unclear as far as I know
06:36:31 pm5 overall I think this article is okay on details but slightly speaks for the gov side
06:38:46 pm5 hope that helps
07:38:12 ⓢ mingtsay pm5++
08:23:45 mix thanks pm5. If it's a valuable step for governments to be taking (as in, they're consulting more), would love to share this.
08:23:52 mix Would you be open to helping spread the word by translating the article ?
08:29:19 mix vim
09:31:26 ⓢ mingtsay mix: you want the whole article to be translated into English?
09:48:00 ipa 求設計松票一張
09:57:19 mix mingtsay yes that would be ideal
09:58:04 mix we're really excited about the change that taiwan has been able to demonstrate and it would be great to tell the story in other countries
10:41:45 ⓢ kiang mix: just created a task at <https://g0v.hackpad.com/Loomio--rKqyhFOdvgM> . Maybe just wait for more people to help. (well, I just found my English is too poor to do this XD)
10:41:49 kcwu slackbot's url: [Loomio 新聞翻譯 - g0v.hackpad.com]
10:44:22 ⓢ kiang au++, 快速跳坑了
10:55:30 mix kiang / au thanks so much. It's pretty rad seeing you translating realtime <3
11:11:10 au mix: done!
11:11:58 mix au you're a awesome! We'll get this out shortly
11:12:28 mix I was wondering whether there is anything that we can do to support your government / you to make sure this process goes well
11:13:05 mix as always, we'd love to do anything to support the important work you're all doing
11:14:16 mix ( in the past we have consulted with our local gov departments on how to do online participation. happy to share our experience on this front )
11:15:41 au mix: isn't there a meetup/conference coming up in .nz?
11:16:33 au #OSOS
11:17:55 au the g0v underground radio hosts have expressed interests in going there for discussions and bringing your shared experience back here
11:18:40 au Rich may remember their voices as his synchronous interpreters in taiwan... https://soundcloud.com/audrey-tang/g0v-1st-audio-gazette https://soundcloud.com/audrey-tang/g0v-2nd-audio-gazette
11:18:41 kcwu au's url (1/2): [g0v 1st audio gazette by audrey.tang - Hear the world’s sounds]
11:18:44 kcwu au's url (2/2): [g0v 2nd audio gazette by audrey.tang - Hear the world’s sounds]
11:23:51 mix au: we'd love to have .tw expertise here, I think it'd be a great oppertunity to learn from each other (sorry connection dropped)
11:24:41 au mix: np. so April 16-17 is it?
11:25:35 au (the OS//OS conference)
11:25:52 mix correct
11:26:02 mix http://www.opensourceopensociety.com/ (you've probably seen already)
11:26:04 kcwu mix's url: [Open Source Open Society | April 2015 | Wellington, NZ - Home]
11:26:18 mix we're doing a lot of last minute organisation at the moment
11:26:30 au yeah, I followed the several revisions on the organization details :p
11:27:02 mix how many people are interested in coming ?
11:27:02 au best luck on the conference planning & looking forward to the info!
11:27:25 au I know CTBlue and RSChiang is interested, sadly I'll be in Europe during that time frame
11:27:49 au there may be others interested in coming as well. maybe 3~5 people in total?
11:27:57 mix cool. feel free to contact me directly / put me in touch if they have any questions or need places to stay. (mix@loomio.org)
11:28:03 mix awesome
11:28:47 mix thanks again for sorting that translation. got to run, but we'll no doubt talk again :)
11:29:07 au ciao, take care & be well :)
11:34:09 yhsiang au: mix: I am interested too :D
11:34:32 au ++
11:53:45 mix yhsiang I've emailed a couple of Loomio people who are helping organise OS/OS, have mentioned everyone who might be interested in coming from g0v.tw (including you)
11:53:54 mix let me know if you've got any questions
11:59:37 yhsiang mix: cool, thx :)
12:08:54 mix au + kiang : we've posted the blogpost here http://blog.loomio.org . We've attributed translation to you both at the top of the article.
12:09:14 mix please let me know if you want anything changed, or would like a twitter tag or something included
12:09:29 au lgtm
12:12:07 au mix: "Other deliberation subjects with considerable interests are" requires an out-dent
12:12:23 mix ok will pass that on au
12:12:36 au otherwise perfect, mix++
12:27:26 wildsky 奇怪 au 打的那一串在手機上是正常的, 為甚麼在 logbot 上卻是亂碼@@
12:31:49 ⓢ wildsky ((在slack上又是正常的了...
12:32:05 ⓢ wildsky 我看一下
12:47:51 ⓢ kiang mix: please remove my name as I didn't contribute much in the translation.
12:48:11 mix kiang : are you sure, you initiated to process
12:49:59 ⓢ kiang mix: sure, I don't think it's good enough to have the contribution. XD
13:14:01 au personally I think initiating is 90% of the credit XD
13:14:33 au 但是作者最大，kiang 說了算 XD
13:15:32 ⓢ mingtsay au++, kiang++
14:51:29 ⓢ wildsky <https://github.com/shulusama/inviteyoself-g0v/pull/2>
14:51:31 kcwu slackbot's url: [包括修正錯字, RWD, Read Me 文件 by wi1d5ky · Pull Request #2 · shulusama/inviteyoself-g0v · GitHub]
14:51:40 ⓢ wildsky 我 pull request 囉><
14:52:48 ⓢ lancetw au++; kiang++
14:53:37 yhsiang wildsky: it's already production in https://github.com/g0v/inviteyoself/tree/prod/resources/templates
14:53:39 kcwu yhsiang's url: [inviteyoself/resources/templates at prod · g0v/inviteyoself · GitHub]
14:53:42 yhsiang wildsky: PR welcome :)
14:59:56 ⓢ wildsky so... I just PR to wrong place >_<?
15:00:39 yhsiang 應該沒也差
15:00:58 yhsiang 只不過直接改這裡的我才能直接 push 上heroku XD
15:01:33 ⓢ wildsky 好XD
15:01:53 ⓢ wildsky 那我試著 pull 過去好了
15:06:14 yhsiang wildsky: 應該不能直接 pull
15:06:20 yhsiang 因為架構不太一樣
15:07:30 ⓢ wildsky 對我正在一行一行改XD
15:08:12 ⓢ wildsky 不過這個是 html 嗎@@? 感覺很多沒看過的語法
15:10:07 yhsiang 是html 不過是先用 template engine 產生
15:11:49 ⓢ wildsky OK 話說我找不到 CSS 要去哪裡增加XD
15:12:35 ⓢ wildsky 有了 inviteyoself/resources/public/css/
15:15:06 ⓢ mingtsay wildsky++
15:16:12 ⓢ moon_c @wildsky: +++
15:20:39 ⓢ wildsky PR done :目
15:23:35 yhsiang wildsky: 調一下 tab -> 2 space @@?
15:24:22 ⓢ wildsky ??
15:24:53 ⓢ wildsky 要去哪邊改>_<
15:25:06 yhsiang wildsky: 用什麼 editor ?
15:27:02 ⓢ wildsky 我是用 notepad++, 不過這個 PR 是直接用 github online editor@@
15:28:17 ⓢ wildsky 我看到問題點了>_<" RWD那邊整個變太寬 Orz
15:33:58 yhsiang wildsky: 線上 editor 可以選 indent mode 跟 indent size
15:59:34 wildsky OK 我剛有看到了，原本要改發現好像已經被你修正了:P 感謝carry
16:05:58 au jimmyhuang, clkao: https://g0v.hackpad.com/Meeting-Notes-2015-01-12-R4w7Sd5Ti46
16:06:00 kcwu au's url: [Meeting Notes 2015-01-12 - g0v.hackpad.com]
16:07:18 ⓢ yhsiang wow
16:08:07 ⓢ yhsiang au: 討論本來就是英文的嗎 ?
16:08:27 au yhsiang: 中英夾雜但是我英打比較快。tonyq 有少部份的中文稿
16:08:31 au 但內容一樣
16:08:43 ⓢ yhsiang ok, au++ 好強 XD
16:09:00 pm5 au++
16:27:18 pm5 au++ kiang++ # 跨國填翻譯坑
16:59:47 ⓢ kiang "au> I can help designing the API, no problem." au++
17:00:10 isacl au: 昨天說今天下午開會, 是指我們線上討論特生和 naer 資料的後續然後記錄在 hackpad 嗎？
17:00:36 au isacl: 是喔
17:03:17 isacl au: ok 那我先開個 hackpad 記一下 naer 的東西.
17:03:36 au isacl: ok, thx! 我再從 R4w7Sd5Ti46 連過去
17:07:09 au (正在跟 NDC 談細節, tonyq_____ 紀錄中)
17:26:14 ⓢ wildsky 真的有人叫 whisky 哦? 好酷XDDDD
17:26:56 ⓢ kiang whisky 可以在 https://www.facebook.com/groups/odtwn/ 找到他 :wink:
17:26:58 kcwu slackbot's url: [Facebook]
17:31:32 ⓢ kiang http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/local/paper/846056 - 希望這次不會讓人失望 XD ，話說賴有種一直追著柯腳步的感覺，應該是媒體操作策略吧 XD
17:31:33 kcwu slackbot's url: [〈南部〉「開放政府」啟動南市府資訊平台月內開放 - 地方 - 自由時報電子報]
17:33:24 ⓢ kiang 如果今年看得到 au 的實作，台灣應該就跳級了 XD
17:34:22 au 我只能幫忙設計 (archive.org) 實作還是要靠大家 XD
17:34:37 au <- 實作的力氣放在動民主上
17:34:45 ⓢ kiang au++
17:37:03 ⓢ yhsiang au 設計的話，我有力氣都可以幫忙實作！ XD
17:37:50 ⓢ kiang yhsiang:++, 看起來 Tech head 有人填坑了 XD
17:38:59 ⓢ yhsiang 能升級的機會不能放過啊！ :stuck_out_tongue:
17:42:41 ⓢ wildsky au++ yhsiang++
17:44:11 ⓢ kiang yhsiang: 那就填進去了 yhsiang mentioned would love to be in the Dev team ( <http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2015-01-12/145> ) XD
17:44:11 kcwu slackbot's url: [Logbot | #g0v.tw | ⓢ yhsiang> au 設計的話，我有力氣都可以幫忙實作！ XD]
17:45:33 ⓢ wildsky 這個跟前端有關嗎, 如果有關我也來跳坑好了XD
17:47:58 ⓢ suensummit DevOpt Lead - Ly
17:49:03 ⓢ yhsiang not Lead 啊 @@
17:49:34 ⓢ kiang yhsiang: 自己改啦 XD - yhsiang mentioned would love to lead the Dev team ( <http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2015-01-12/145> )
17:50:00 ⓢ kiang <http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/g0v.tw/2015-01-12/151>
17:50:01 kcwu slackbot's url: [Logbot | #g0v.tw | ⓢ wildsky> 這個跟前端有關嗎, 如果有關我也來跳坑好了XD]
17:50:18 ⓢ kiang 貼錯，我都塞到 https://g0v.hackpad.com/Meeting-Notes-2015-01-12-R4w7Sd5Ti46 了
17:50:20 kcwu slackbot's url: [Meeting Notes 2015-01-12 - g0v.hackpad.com]
17:50:39 ⓢ yhsiang 改啥 ?
17:50:41 ⓢ kiang suensummit: 代表 Ly 發言？
17:50:57 ⓢ kiang yhsiang: 最下面的 Action Items
17:52:32 ⓢ suensummit 胡亂推坑XD
17:52:42 ⓢ kiang XD - 這要自己跳坑啦
17:54:06 ⓢ suensummit 既然是 open data 就跟著跳吧 :fill: :dig:
17:55:02 ⓢ kiang done, 倒垃圾去 XD
18:00:10 ⓢ moon_c 跳進來～背景音樂又來了<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuK_ANJIoTg>
18:00:11 kcwu slackbot's url: [a MEI [跳進來JUMP IN] 官方official HD MV - YouTube]
18:01:12 ⓢ wildsky 挑~僅~來~ Let's do it~
18:01:20 kkkyo hi all
18:01:37 kkkyo 問一下 $(db2 -xv "list tables" | awk '{print $1}' | sed '1d')
18:01:49 kkkyo 為什麼在bash script內跑不出來...QQ
18:02:24 ⓢ wildsky ((看不懂的程式碼…Orz
18:08:52 isacl kkkyo: 這段是寫在一個 shell script 裡面嗎？有前後文嗎？
18:27:46 kkkyo @isacl 對阿寫在shell script 裡面
18:30:35 isacl kkkyo: 有 assign 給其它變數嗎？ e.g. somevar=$(db2 -xv "list tables" .... )
18:38:14 kkkyo @isacl somevar 並沒有assign給其他變數
18:39:13 isacl kkkyo: 那把 $() 拿掉？
19:41:05 au clkao, pofeng, whisky, jimmy: https://g0v.hackpad.com/R4w7Sd5Ti46 下方更新了國發會的部份
19:41:08 kcwu au's url: [Meeting Notes 2015-01-12 - g0v.hackpad.com]
19:47:55 ⓢ wildsky 有我有收到mail XD
19:48:06 ⓢ wildsky 等等再看先吃飯
19:48:17 ⓢ wildsky 吃飯去了
20:07:20 ⓢ kiang wildsky: 你誤會了， au 是 tag whisky XD
20:08:43 au wildsky 有跳坑了 (on hackpad)，所以一併 tag XD
20:41:53 ⓢ kiang <http://swcoast-nsa.travel/Process/Love?lang=65|http://swcoast-nsa.travel/Process/Love?lang=65> - 四湖口湖─xx樂園 (深夜還沒到，只好打馬賽克)
20:58:17 au isacl++ 感謝，幫了大忙了，這等於是從零到一的距離。
20:58:33 au R4w7Sd5Ti46 內文兩處已連去
20:59:10 ⓢ t0mst0ne clkao: 回到前一版的influxdb 會比較好嗎 ?
21:01:47 isacloud au: 過獎了。 0 到 1 是你與林主任談的啊!
21:09:29 au 那是 o 到 0 的轉移 XD
21:17:16 CindyLinz 一個零的轉移...
22:05:38 miaoski 有人和我一樣，Mac 下的 terminal 處理 locale 總是設定不好嗎？
22:06:07 miaoski 我裝了 MeCab ... make check 過了，不過在 terminal 下試跑，出來的就是亂碼
22:06:26 miaoski export LC_ALL=ja_JP.UTF-8 也沒用。話說我整個系統的 locale 設的是日文...
22:09:11 ⓢ yhsiang miaoski: 預設的terminal?
22:09:27 miaoski yhsiang: 是滴. mac terminal
22:11:13 ⓢ yhsiang miaoski 偏好設定 -> 進階編碼是 UTF-8 ?
22:11:45 miaoski 有勾不止一個...
22:12:09 miaoski 應該把它通通取消掉，只選 UTF-8 嗎？
22:13:56 ⓢ yhsiang try? XD
22:13:58 miaoski GG 看來不是這個 :p
22:14:20 ⓢ kiang 有試著重新登入看看嗎？
22:14:23 miaoski 它看來輸出入都錯很大
22:14:26 miaoski https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fz9ls4wy
22:14:27 kcwu miaoski's url: [Pastebin: fz9ls4wy | IRCCloud]
22:14:41 miaoski 我原本就是用日文當預設 locale, so ...
22:15:11 miaoski https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wC8c5gVi
22:15:12 kcwu miaoski's url: [Pastebin: wC8c5gVi | IRCCloud]
22:23:46 ⓢ yhsiang 我正常 oz
22:25:07 miaoski XD
22:25:19 miaoski 沒關係，我改用另一個純 python 的 stemmer 了
22:25:23 miaoski 感謝 yhsiang ++
22:40:51 ⓢ pofeng 問個怪問題, 為什麼從 A ip 看得到 http://wired.tw/ , 但是看 http://nb-106-187-40-43.tokyo.nodebalancer.linode.com/ 是 bad gateway
22:40:51 kcwu slackbot's url (1/2): [Wired | home]
22:41:30 ⓢ pofeng 然後從 B ip 看不到 http://wired.tw/ ( bad gateway ) , 但是看得到 <http://nb-106-187-40-43.tokyo.nodebalancer.linode.com/>
22:41:58 ⓢ pofeng A ip 是, hinet dynamic adsl
22:43:01 ⓢ pofeng B ip 是hinet 100m 的固定 ip
22:48:58 ⓢ yhsiang pofeng: traceroute 一下 ?
22:49:19 ⓢ pofeng 通的
22:49:45 seadog007 我之前怎麼沒有想到在巴哈放GA... (痛哭
22:49:57 seadog007 等等發錯邊XD
22:50:04 ⓢ yhsiang 我看wired.tw也是 bad gateway XD
22:50:14 ⓢ pofeng yhsiang: 所以才發現竟然有兩個不同的結果 nginx/1.2.6
22:50:34 ⓢ pofeng yhsiang: 那你連 http://nb-106-187-40-43.tokyo.nodebalancer.linode.com/ 應該看得到喔
22:50:41 ⓢ pofeng yayared: 對不對 ?
22:51:11 ⓢ yhsiang hmm 交大ip 看得到 http://wired.tw XD
22:51:11 kcwu slackbot's url: [Wired | home]
22:54:11 ⓢ pofeng 很神秘, 搞不懂 :stuck_out_tongue: 我是 A ip hinet dynamic adsl, 看得到 http://wired.tw , 看不到 <http://nb-106-187-40-43.tokyo.nodebalancer.linode.com/>
22:55:32 ⓢ yhsiang pofeng: 我覺得是nodebalancer 有問題
22:55:44 ⓢ yhsiang 他應該是有幾台機器某一台掛掉了之類的
22:55:54 ⓢ yhsiang 因為交大的結果又換了
22:56:24 ⓢ yhsiang 都回來了
22:58:34 ⓢ pofeng 喔, 瞭, 謝謝
23:11:44 miaoski 因為牙痛，所以搞這個小玩具轉移注意力... https://github.com/miaoski/stemtokstop
23:11:46 kcwu miaoski's url: [miaoski/stemtokstop · GitHub]
23:12:02 miaoski yhsiang: 我剛剛的問題其實就是因為要搞日文 QQ..
23:16:43 ⓢ wildsky 阿靠XD 貞的錯認XD
23:18:13 ⓢ yhsiang miaoski: 可是我的日文很正常 QQ
23:20:00 miaoski yhsiang: 我也不知道 MeCab 究竟怎麼惹
23:20:14 miaoski 我有預感在 Linux 下完全不會有問題 XD
23:20:32 miaoski 完全 python 的環境下，表現是正常的。so.. 不管了 :P